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posted 09-03-04 09:11 ET (US)   
I have a Riva TNT 32 MB video card.

Which is the newest/latest/best and how would the present card compare to them?

In any case, I think it's time to get a new one. This PC is pushing close on 4 years now. However, I do not wish to (or rather, can not) spend 300 dollars on a new video card alone.

Can you guys suggest reasonably good ones available at around 100 dollars that will allow me to run all these new games and sequels that are coming out in the next year - CotN, DS 2, SH 2 and ZT 2


-P-


Full Circle.
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posted 09-06-04 23:30 ET (US)     26 / 38  
DX the topic changed cause our customer didn't post back so we'll keep it live until he does or we exhaust all the topics
posted 09-06-04 23:43 ET (US)     27 / 38  
Er, ok...

So, how do you know where to install the fans? Sounds like some science knowledge is needed to do that.

posted 09-07-04 01:37 ET (US)     28 / 38  
Hi DX

A casefan at the bottom front taking air into the case and another in the back right under the PSU for taking the air out of the case. The one in the front also helps cooling the graphicscard down (see, I'm staying on topic ). Big graphicscards produce a lot of heat, if a bit unlucky there will build a pocket of hot air under the graphicscard which in bad cases can lead to a damaged graphicscard.


Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the body. Pr. 16:24
posted 09-07-04 02:24 ET (US)     29 / 38  

Quote:

Does the 2.8ghz Northwoods have the same problem with heat?

I have one and have no problems with heat.

Specifics:
1 "exhaust" fan in the case, no intake fan, processor at 50% load, videocard Powercolor 9600 Pro, roomtemperature 200 C.

Both AsusProbe and MBM 5.0 report Case and CPU temps under 400 C.

posted 09-07-04 02:55 ET (US)     30 / 38  
How exactly does the fan at the front work or look like? Uh, I mean, where is it located?

By the way, I remember PCD telling me about AsusProbe that comes with Asus motherboards before I got this PC. I don't seem to be able to find this feature on mine.

posted 09-07-04 08:57 ET (US)     31 / 38  
Thanks for filling in on that one Rcee, I overlooked it and you are fully correct

Quote:

How exactly does the fan at the front work or look like? Uh, I mean, where is it located?


Most cases has the possibility of mounting a 80mm casefan at the bottom front either using a special frame or using special screws.
It works by giving it power and the fan starts running (j/k sorry)thereby dragging air into the case through a lot of small holes in the front of the case (you have to mount the fan correctly but it has small arrows showing what way the air goes through the fan).
The ordinary oldfashioned casefan looks like this:

They also comes in transparent or orange. The transparent ones also comes with colored LEDs. Some are a bit loud, other are almost totally silent. They come in both 80, 92 and 120mm so it's about finding the one that fits the case.

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By the way, I remember PCD telling me about AsusProbe that comes with Asus motherboards before I got this PC. I don't seem to be able to find this feature on mine.


It should be on the CD that belongs to the motherboard.

Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the body. Pr. 16:24
posted 09-07-04 11:17 ET (US)     32 / 38  
Mmm, I have opened up my casing quite a few times in the past, and I never really noticed the fans. I didn't know that there was one at the front. Maybe I'll check it out again some other day.

Actually, I think my case has the fan in that pic, or something similar. I remember playing with it for fun, it's at the back of my casing.

As for AsusProbe, the retailer should have already installed the stuff on whatever CD that came with my motherboard. I can't find the program on my system at all. I'm not even sure if I've seen the CD before.

posted 09-07-04 12:43 ET (US)     33 / 38  
DX the folks that built your computer should have included the motherboard drivers cd with your system. If you should have to reinstall your operating system you will need that motherboard drivers cd. If they didn't include it you should ask them for it.
posted 09-07-04 21:54 ET (US)     34 / 38  
Ok, I found it. It's a pretty cool looking blue CD. I keep all my driver CDs and manuals in the Asus box, no reason for me not having the CD.

I ran it and found Asus Probe under the utilities section. I tried to install it, but there were lots of settings that I don't understand. Threshold board temperature, threshold CPU temperature and threshold fan speed... Should I just go for the default? What do they mean?

posted 09-08-04 01:18 ET (US)     35 / 38  
Treshold temperatures: When going over this temperature Asus Probe will give you a warning (if Asus Probe is running in the backgrund).

Treshold fan speed: If the fan goes under this speed Asus Probe will give you a warning (if Asus Probe is running in the background).

Just go for the default settings when installing. You can change the setting manually after installation if you want.

If you have fans installed where the fanspeed is not checked by the motherboard, Asus Probe will show those fan as not working so it's a good idea to disable them in Asus Probe.


Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the body. Pr. 16:24
posted 09-08-04 03:00 ET (US)     36 / 38  
Ok, I had all of them (baseboard and CPU temp, power and chasis fan) set to default. Looks like I don't give my CPU enough work. It's only 32 deg C, and the motherboard is at 36. It's quite hard for me at the moment to imagine anybody having their motherboards cooked!

My PSU fan isn't detected though. If I want to have it monitored, what do I have to connect to it for it to be detected by Asus Probe?

posted 09-08-04 13:52 ET (US)     37 / 38  
Your PSU fan can only be monitored if it has a special thin cable with a plug (like the one on the cable from the CPU fan) that can be plugged into a casefan connector on the motherboard.

Quote:

It's only 32 deg C, and the motherboard is at 36


Sure it's not the other way around?

Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the body. Pr. 16:24

[This message has been edited by Proconsul Creaticus Dania (edited 09-08-2004 @ 01:54 PM).]

posted 09-08-04 21:40 ET (US)     38 / 38  
Sounds a tad too complicated to me... Anyway, yes, my CPU temperature (as indicated by Probe) is always lower than my motherboard temperature... Currently it's 31 and 35 respectively. Uhoh...
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