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Topic Subject: Like to Scan Disk, where is it on WinXP?
posted 06-08-03 16:39 ET (US)   
Your August Sirs (gender neutral),

I keep getting advice to always Scan Disk and Defrag. Well I have done this on older versions of Windows but I can not find any Scan Disk utility on WinXP. Defrag works fine, is the "Analyse" section of the Defrag utility doing what the old "Scan Disk" did?

I have Intel P4-1.8, 768MB, 60GB-HD which is partitioned into 5 drives by Partition Magic.

I feel so insecure


J a c k N o i r

posted 06-08-03 16:52 ET (US)     1 / 19  
In WinXP Scan Disk is called Check Disk. You can either run it from the command line (Start --> Run. Type cmd and hit Enter) by typing chkdisk (or is it chkdsk?) or by rightclicking a drive in Explorer and choose Properties --> Tools --> Error-checking

'Analyse' in the Defrag is a tool that will analyse the drive if it needs to get defragged. I think it at the same time checks if there are problems on the drive that needs the care of Check Disk.

Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the body. Pr. 16:24

[This message has been edited by Proconsul Creaticus Dania (edited 06-08-2003 @ 04:55 PM).]

posted 06-08-03 17:56 ET (US)     2 / 19  
Chkdsk will run once you set it up at boot up it can't run like the old ome did within windows
posted 06-09-03 01:43 ET (US)     3 / 19  
*checks own method*

Darn! Going into admin tools doesn't work an more

posted 06-09-03 02:48 ET (US)     4 / 19  
Your August SNR,

Yea, now you understand my seemingly inane question.

Ok Mouse, I went to Explorer and setup a "check disk" for the next re-start.

Q1: will this happen at every re-boot or do I have to do something else?... I am sure...

Q2: will this check only the partition selected or the whole hard drive? Assuming it works the hardest way possible, what do I need to do for Q1?

Yours insecurly,

J a c k N o i r

posted 06-09-03 04:24 ET (US)     5 / 19  
I thought Check Disk was the one that was used in the old systems like Win3.1? Why did they change back to it in XP?

posted 06-09-03 04:55 ET (US)     6 / 19  
hmmmmm the reason I am confused is because whenever I have scanned my disk on this XP machine I had used the admin tools panel. It must be one of the newer patches that removed that option
If you want to error check your disk you can do it by going into my computer. Selecting properties of the disk you wish to check and selecting it from the tools panel.
posted 06-09-03 09:55 ET (US)     7 / 19  
Jack Noir answer Q1 it will only run that one time I think (very dangerous for me to think)
Answer to Q2 I don't know (don't have XP on my current computer so I can't check. But I believe you might be able to set it to run on each restart. Didn't install XP on this sytem because I'm going to build a new computer and don't want to have to call MS for a new number

SNR the option has been there for XP since the RC 1

DX the chkdsk that used in XP is from Win NT or Win 2000.

posted 06-09-03 11:36 ET (US)     8 / 19  
bah but where ahs it gone from my admin tools? The option was there up until I checked it today. Maybe you are right about auto update. next I'll find out it managed to bypass my removal of windows messenger aghhh!
posted 06-09-03 12:52 ET (US)     9 / 19  
Oh SNR I sure hope auto update didn't do that to you But I like to control what does and doesn't get added to my system since some fixes break things
posted 06-09-03 15:00 ET (US)     10 / 19  
Your August Ladies and DX,

Thanks Mouse and SNR.

I discovered something when I went through and manually scanned each flipping partition. FAT32 and NTFS partitions behave completly differently when doing a "Check Disk". Makes sence of course, FAT32 requires the DOS routine and NTFS uses the Windows NT version which is launched from the Explorer window (does not require reboot) and runs about twice as fast as the FAT32 version. Another reason to switch your file systems to NTFS.

SNR: the reason Microsoft had to change the way scan disk worked is due to the transparent support of both FAT32 and NTFS disk formats in Windows XP apparently.

DX: Microsoft is evolving, slowly, toward having Windows become the same as Windows NT. When they made the change to integrate scan disk for Winxx into WinXP they probably decided that writing a new UI was required. To avoid "confusion" (I'm not confused, are you?) they named it the same as an old product that everyone remembers.

Developing new software for large interelated systems is a challenge at the edge of human capabilities. We should be lucky it works at all

Insecurity at normal levels,

J a c k N o i r

[This message has been edited by Jack Noir (edited 06-09-2003 @ 03:01 PM).]

posted 06-09-03 15:58 ET (US)     11 / 19  
ahhhhh! I'm running NTFS at the momment. No real reason just the fact that when I picked it up from the bloke who made it for me it was set to that lol!
posted 06-09-03 16:11 ET (US)     12 / 19  
I just hope the defragger in WinXP is better then the one in Win2000. I've tried running the defragger in Win2000 four times in a row and the HD was still fragmented...

Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the body. Pr. 16:24
posted 06-09-03 16:52 ET (US)     13 / 19  
PCD the disk defragger in Win XP is really just Disk Keeper licensed to MS (personal opinion worthless)

Jack Noir I personally like Fat 32 rather than NTFS though NTFS is more secure Fat 32 runs faster than NTFS (need for speed)

posted 06-09-03 18:31 ET (US)     14 / 19  
Your August Techies,

Kill some of my last post... When I rebooted my Check Disk jobs for the NTFS partitions were processed anyway. Took for...ever. One of the partitions was 30GB (all my tunes )

Don't care too much for the defragger huh mouse. You have to stop being so shy and tell us what you really think

Off to Palm Springs. Don't fret Mouse, the weather is "real bad".


J a c k N o i r

posted 06-09-03 18:47 ET (US)     15 / 19  
Actually I think the problems with the Microsoft defragger programs for NTFS originates in that MS originally claimed NTFS could maintain itself and therefore didn't require a defragger. IIRC there is no defragger in NT4 for NTFS, you have to get a thirdparty program for doing the job.

Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the body. Pr. 16:24
posted 06-09-03 19:03 ET (US)     16 / 19  
Jack Noir have fun in Palm Springs bet it's hard to find some place for vacation when one lives in heaven

PCD you might have a point since they really didn't develop a defrag program rather licensed 3rd party software There are alot of people that like Disk Keeper but I don't cause it just doesn't do the job.

posted 06-09-03 19:17 ET (US)     17 / 19  
Neither the defrag nor scandisk programs used in any of the MS OSes are developed by MS, they are rewamped versions of programs MS bought the right to use... They were originally developed by Norton, who sold his software to Symantec together with the right to use his name and picture for commercial reasons.

Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the body. Pr. 16:24
posted 06-09-03 23:07 ET (US)     18 / 19  
Pretty sad since Norton did a great job with Win 3.1 but that was the last time
posted 06-10-03 01:36 ET (US)     19 / 19  
heh defragging works for me I woulld get another program but I wouldn't know where to start!
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