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street hobo
Pleb
posted 04-17-06 14:00 ET (US)         
CBH Zombie Mafia


alive again

theferret
weavecaesar
niempie
ovidius
centurion

dead again

VisMaior (Brian M, From Music City Mafia) beaten to death by an angry, yet bored group of villagers, Day 1
Fiindil (Lisa Simpson, From Simpsons Mafia) put down like an old sick dog, Night 1

Darthbane (Townie from Shipwrecked Mafia) lynched, or something
Nonchalance (Death from Family Guy Mafia) died (?) from an overdose of holy water, Night 2
Watchwood (Paranoid Townie from Vannila City Mafia) died from a self-administered Touch of Death, Night 2
theferret (Jose J from the Music City Cafe) lynched out of boredom, Day 3
debbie (The Serial Killer from Shipwrecked Mafia) heart stopped, Night 3


CURRENT TIME: NIGHT 3.


My rules:

- I use a "Dawn" phase to finish night and give me some time to write the
night scene, and send investigation results. No posting, night talking or night actions allowed. It's short, don't worry.
- I use a "Dusk" phase to finish day and give me some time to write the lynch
scene. No posting, night talking or night actions allowed. It's short, don't
worry.
- If I made a mistake, or if you didn't get an email, or if something
bounced or if you have a question about your role, tell me about it by email,
out of thread, not to disrupt game.
- You may change your nigth action once, but no guarantees.

- Nearly all roles have been taken from previous mafia games. One way to get
more information about the powers of your player is to check out his original
game.



street hobo ~ playing cbh since 12-11-2004
CBH Stats : Win/Loss = 7/5 | Town / Scum = 7/5

[This message has been edited by street hobo (edited 06-02-2006 @ 07:05 PM).]

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theferret
A girl dammit!
posted 05-09-06 01:13 ET (US)     101 / 204       

Quote:

Also, what's up with the doc? We had a claimed cop, and the doc doesn't bother protecting him? That's a little weird, I'd say. And the fact that the scum actually went for the claimed cop seems a little risky as well, seeing as how it would (well, to me, at least) seem normal that the doc would have protected that player...


Maybe the doc assumed the mafia wouldn't target the cop, assuming that the doc would protect him?

Dawn != Day


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da hobo
Pleb
posted 05-09-06 07:48 ET (US)     102 / 204       

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Lastly, why did da hobo first announce that it was day, then, 14 minutes later, declare who had been killed? Again, this might just be me, but had I been the mod, it would seem simply natural to declare who had been killed as dawn breaks. There couldn't be any connection between da hobo's apparent grumpiness and that, could there? I don't know, I'm probably over-analyzing the tiniest things and going paranoid, so it's probably nothing, but there just seem to be a lot of things which don't add up...

Quote:

- I use a "Dawn" phase to finish night and give me some time to write the
night scene, and send investigation results. No posting, night talking or night actions allowed. It's short, don't worry.
- I use a "Dusk" phase to finish day and give me some time to write the lynch
scene. No posting, night talking or night actions allowed. It's short, don't
worry.

Nonchalance's goats die now. Dawn is so I can end the night without figuring out all the happenenings of the night, and emailing investigations. I did this in my other mafia too.

And I'm just grumpy because they merged the databases and now I have to switch accounts every 5 minutes, to edit different posts.


"The most important thing to do in your life, is to not interfere with somebody else's life." - Zappa
Debbie
Pleb
posted 05-09-06 08:35 ET (US)     103 / 204       

Quote:

Niempie didn't really raise any red flags on Day 1, but something about theferret seemed a little off. I can't really put my finger on it, but the way he was playing rubbed me the wrong way.

Non, I think ferrett always plays this way, at least it didn't seem any different to me.

I'm gonna vote Darth because he took the kill shot. He could have waited for a claim. Hell, we waited that long, a little more wouldn't have hurt.

On another note, tomorrow starts our annual family reunion in Gulf Shores. We are leaving early early tomorrow and will be back Sunday mid afternoon.


Why do I always get blamed when Weave shows up dead?
watchwood
Pleb
posted 05-09-06 15:01 ET (US)     104 / 204       
Poor, foolish hobo.


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CenturionZ_1
Pleb
posted 05-09-06 16:03 ET (US)     105 / 204       
This is what I love about the HH...you can disappear into the real world for 1 week and you don't miss too much.

I did find it weird though how the voting against Vis was so defeatist. It's almost as if everyone agreed this was getting nowhere and just decided to lynch someone for the hell of it.

And what was up with Fiindil? Was he trying to double-bluff everyone into thinking he's too aggressive to be cop. Backfired anyway because the doctor bought it but the mafia didn't.

So two dead and nothing much to go on yet. We haev at least guessed everyone's from a different mafia game. However, I notice that the characters who are being revived are characters that died in their respective game. SO there's no guarantee scum will come from games the scum won...if anything it's more likely to be the other way around.

Still FOS: Darthbane and ferret . Their voting patterns on day one were really too impulsive for more liking. Then again so was Vis' but he turned out to be townie.

(The scum probably aren't anyone we are suspecting you know. They probably realised that the day was being strung out SO much that it was probably better to sit it out and let things be and wait for night to come. I know that was exactly what I did but that's because I've been revising for my exams this past week...so don't all turn on me.)


CenturionZ_1
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DarthBane
Pleb
posted 05-09-06 22:18 ET (US)     106 / 204       

Quote:

So two dead and nothing much to go on yet. We haev at least guessed everyone's from a different mafia game. However, I notice that the characters who are being revived are characters that died in their respective game. SO there's no guarantee scum will come from games the scum won...if anything it's more likely to be the other way around.

Except for the fact that Hobo said at least once, that the scum thought they had the place to themselves, but didn't any more because of everyone coming back to life... ergo, they were still alive.

WeaveCaesar
Pleb
posted 05-10-06 12:47 ET (US)     107 / 204       
Errr...who cares where the scum come from? Whether they're zombies or living characters from previous games, they're still the bad guys!

I dont like how Darth failed to add anthing with that last post, Im going to add my suspicions to the group of 2(3?) who have already done so. When you hide in the background and add litte, you are generally scum. If you;re not scum Darth, please feel free to refure my allegations through a post which adds to discussion. By all means have a go at me if you wish. I just dont trust posts with no content (although we;ve little to go on right now Ill admit)


Why does everyone think I killed Debbie?
DarthBane
Pleb
posted 05-10-06 13:40 ET (US)     108 / 204       
Okay then, I'll give you what I've got for discussion. I'm the townie from shipwreck mafia. When I came back to life I found out the serial killer from SWM was still lurking around (Hence my pointing out that the bad guys are from games where they won and were still alive). Because I know who he is, I can search for him every night.

Last night I investigated Ovidius. He's not the serial killer. However, this doesn't make him innocent, it just means he's not the SK.

So there you have it. Discuss.

Niempie
Pleb
posted 05-10-06 15:01 ET (US)     109 / 204       
You are a townie from SWM and now have investigation powers? Hmm, the dead players so far, had the same powers in this game ,as in their original game, if I recall correctly.

So it could be just me, but this seams a bit odd to me right now, but I don't say it is impossible. This could be a claim form scum trying to make a safe claim, but at this moment I'm not entirely sure, so I will think this over right now.


No one is listening until you make a mistake
WeaveCaesar
Pleb
posted 05-10-06 15:37 ET (US)     110 / 204       
To be fair that is HUGE. I wasnt really pushing for a roleclaim! ha. Ok, I'll take you at face value. Also explains your willingness to go to night.

Still, seems strange that youd get a different role from the one that initially died, I mean, why not just pick a pyschiatrist form one of the other mafia games?


Why does everyone think I killed Debbie?
DarthBane
Pleb
posted 05-10-06 15:54 ET (US)     111 / 204       
My theory as to why I'm from SWM, is that I made it to the endgame as a townie, and it's (to my recollection) the only game in which a serial killer has lived through to the end. And because he killed me and lived, I came back to life remembering what he looked like (sadly adder isn't playing, or I would have investigated him right off!) and now just have to find him. Or her.

If I was scum I would surely have claimed pure townie, or probably taken one of the cooler roles from one of my own games. I wouldn't have given myself a role that's practically useless unless I manage to actually find the SK... which right now is a 1 in 8 chance. I can't even find regular scum, just the SK.

Ovidius
Pleb
posted 05-11-06 02:03 ET (US)     112 / 204       

Quoted from Darth:

Last night I investigated Ovidius. He's not the serial killer. However, this doesn't make him innocent, it just means he's not the SK.


Well, you're correct on me not being the SK, but neither am I scum. I think Darth's theory on why his powers differ from the original role is credible, although then it would mean that either the doc prevented a kill last night OR the SK chose not to kill last night OR the SK has some rule governing his/her kills.

And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
DarthBane
Pleb
posted 05-11-06 04:25 ET (US)     113 / 204       
Could be a missed deadline, I've done that before.
Ovidius
Pleb
posted 05-11-06 06:04 ET (US)     114 / 204       
DOH! Of course, let's find the most convoluted explanations, when the actual explanation may be the very simplest. Indeed, he may be an amnesiac SK.

VOTE FERRET
Let's get down to some business...


And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
watchwood
Pleb
posted 05-11-06 19:39 ET (US)     115 / 204       
A most interesting claim Darth. I believe it for now, thoguh you came out with it kinda fast for comfort.

Ovidius, any particular reason for choosing Ferret? Or have I missed something again?



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Can't believe on back on this damned site again.
Ovidius
Pleb
posted 05-12-06 03:41 ET (US)     116 / 204       

Quoted from Watchwood:

Ovidius, any particular reason for choosing Ferret? Or have I missed something again?

Quoted from Myself:

As usual, I'd be surprised if there are no scum in amongst those who voted to lynch Vis. Of course, not me. I am most suspicious of votes 4 and 5, Ferret and Niempie, which seemed to constitute a mini-bandwagon, a band-trailer if you will.


And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
theferret
A girl dammit!
posted 05-12-06 08:45 ET (US)     117 / 204       
hobo had imposed the ultimatum, and I, like everyone else, just voted for someone to avoid the three random kills. Usually a missed deadline will go to a no lynch. Any posts made after the deadline should be viewed through a different lens than other posts.

Is the only claim we have as to the existence of the SK DB's word for it? His claim seems to be a perfect scum claim - no real importance (wouldn't the cop also be able to identify the SK), makes us fish around for an SK that we don't know exists, taking heat off of the mafia... I'd take his claim with a grain of salt.


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street hobo
Pleb
posted 05-13-06 13:26 ET (US)     118 / 204       
three random kills = joke

street hobo ~ playing cbh since 12-11-2004
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CenturionZ_1
Pleb
posted 05-13-06 16:21 ET (US)     119 / 204       
THe problem with Darth's claim is that to validate the existence of a SK it would mean having two night kills or mean being very forutitous and lynching the Sk today.

I too agree with ferret that Darth's claim would be something the SK himself might make because he is in total control of his claim. But a psychaitrist/psychopath role in a mini mafia game seems reasonable as we've had mini games with mafia and SK.

And given we've lost our cop, is it worth risking losing a player who could potentially cure the SK?


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Nonchalance
Pleb
posted 05-13-06 17:00 ET (US)     120 / 204       

Quoted from ferret:

hobo had imposed the ultimatum, and I, like everyone else, just voted for someone to avoid the three random kills. Usually a missed deadline will go to a no lynch. Any posts made after the deadline should be viewed through a different lens than other posts.

See, this is exactrly what I mean when I say ferret rubs me the wrong way this game. I mean, it was glaringly obvious that da hobo only threatened to kill 3 people as a joke. I can't honestly believe that you took hobo seriously, ferret, so the fact that you're pretending to in order to justify your votes and your eagerness to get to night means you're hiding or something, or you're at least trying to pull a veil over our eyes. Also, this part looks strange:

Quoted from ferret:

and I, like everyone else, just voted for someone to avoid the three random kills

That's weird, since you didn't actually vote for anyone:

Quoted from ferret, post 67:


Vote: no lynch

Quoted from ferret, a few posts later:

I have nothing to add, and I don't think we're going to get a mafia by shooting blindly. Given the odds, I'd rather just go to night than lose 3 people.

Quote:

Is the only claim we have as to the existence of the SK DB's word for it? His claim seems to be a perfect scum claim - no real importance (wouldn't the cop also be able to identify the SK), makes us fish around for an SK that we don't know exists, taking heat off of the mafia... I'd take his claim with a grain of salt.

How would the Serial Killer react to Darthbane's claim? Hmmmm.... probably exactly like the above quote. Ferret's trying to throw some doubt onto DB's claim, saying it's probably false and a great scum tactic, but he refuses to be conclusive, saying that although, for all the reasons he stated, it's 'obvious' that DB is trying to dupe us.... however, let's take his claim with a grain of salt. Why not be a bit more decisive, ferret? WHy so uncertain?



My thoughts are mine and mine alone, although we could reach an agreement for a reasonable price - Sukkit
In part of one [a dream] a female forumer had a scrotum and i was licking it while another forumer watched, and i told him how it tasted. - Drahnier
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watchwood
Pleb
posted 05-13-06 20:43 ET (US)     121 / 204       
That is interesting, particularily that little lie you seem to have caught him in. Most interesting. ferret?


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Can't believe on back on this damned site again.
theferret
A girl dammit!
posted 05-13-06 21:11 ET (US)     122 / 204       

Quote:

I mean, it was glaringly obvious that da hobo only threatened to kill 3 people as a joke. I can't honestly believe that you took hobo seriously, ferret


I honestly did believe him. When a mod says something in a game, I take it seriously.

I didn't know that people this side of heaven had a sense of humor.

Quote:

That's weird, since you didn't actually vote for anyone:


I voted for both CTZ and Vis, in addition to the no lynch vote. Don't make stuff up.

Quote:

How would the Serial Killer react to Darthbane's claim? Hmmmm.... probably exactly like the above quote. Ferret's trying to throw some doubt onto DB's claim, saying it's probably false and a great scum tactic, but he refuses to be conclusive, saying that although, for all the reasons he stated, it's 'obvious' that DB is trying to dupe us.... however, let's take his claim with a grain of salt. Why not be a bit more decisive, ferret? WHy so uncertain?


If I was the SK I wouldn't have responded to his claim at all. As he doesn't know who I am, I would bide my time and kill him tonight. I wouldn't risk drawing attention to myself, especially if I had managed to avoid notice so far. Getting him lynched would only draw me out.

I never said that it was 'obvious' that DB is trying to dupe us, and don't say I did.

Of all the players in this game, you've played with me the most - you know I'm only conclusive when I have solid evidence. I have no evidence. I only have a gut feeling that DB is lying and the reasons for that feeling. When I don't know for sure, I act as I am now - fishing around, trying to find out if others agree with what I'm thinking. If others agree, then I would be up for lynching him - but I'm not going to throw my vote around on something that won't have any backing.

So, Non, why did you lie twice when attacking me? Most interesting.


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Nonchalance
Pleb
posted 05-14-06 16:28 ET (US)     123 / 204       
Ferret, it's true you voted for both Vis and CTZ, but only well after a bandwagon had formed on both of them.

Quoted from ferret:

Unvote
Vote: Vis
Just to do something

This after there were already three votes on Vis.

Quoted from ferret, post 5:

Vote: Fiindil
diediediediedie

die!

Haha, IESpell says that 'diediediediedie' should be changed to 'redivided'.

The other vote is clearly a random vote on Fiindil, the only other OD player. This is before anything had eve happened, so I naturally discounted it when looking at your voting record in my other post accusing you.

In short, its fair to say that you random voted once, that you jumped on a bandwahon for yur second vote, and when that bandwagon didn't really gain any steam and as soon as it was obvious we weren't going to lynch Centurion, you switched your vote for a no lynch, citing da hobo's '3 random kills' as a justification. And I'm not buying your 'no one here has a sense of humour' excuse, as, like I said before, it was glaringly obvious and you must have been the only layer in the game to have taken da hobo's 'threat' seriously. It's obvious that you knew perfectly well that he was joking, and you merely used what he said as an opportunity to get it as fast as possible to night.

Looking at your voting patterns and your reaction to DB's SK comments, I'd have to say your our best lynch candidate for today. For al these reasons, my vote stays on you and I urge everyone else to look at everything against ferret carefully, and if it's enough, to vote for him.

In response to this:

Quote:

So, Non, why did you lie twice when attacking me? Most interesting.

I have to ask: where did I lie twice? The voting pattern, I already addressed: I deliberatly skipped your obvious random vote at the very beginning of the game, and your other vote was to jump the Centurion bandwagon. I was addressing your vote after their suspicious activity started, disregarding your dubious voting patterns before the game started to heat up and players make bold moves.

My vote stands.


My thoughts are mine and mine alone, although we could reach an agreement for a reasonable price - Sukkit
In part of one [a dream] a female forumer had a scrotum and i was licking it while another forumer watched, and i told him how it tasted. - Drahnier
I might laugh once, smile a couple of times but then begins the downhill road to the final resting place of screaming and clawing at the screen. - GillB

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Nonchalance
Pleb
posted 05-14-06 16:33 ET (US)     124 / 204       
Damn, I clicked 'submit reply' when I should have previewed it to knock off all the typos.

Also, I wanted to ad that with Fiindil, our cop, gone, the only way we're going to get anywhere is through player analysis. We can't depend on our cop finding any of the mafia, so we're going to have to rely on ourselves to look at players' voting patterns and their reaction to certan things to narrow down who might be mafia/SK. This means that we're never going to have any 100% definitive proof against a player, but we can certainly point out who is acting the scummiest and who is the best lynch candidate for the day. For this, I have proposed theferret for the reasons indicated in my other posts against him. It isn't an airtight case against him, obviously, but it's the best thing we have right now.


My thoughts are mine and mine alone, although we could reach an agreement for a reasonable price - Sukkit
In part of one [a dream] a female forumer had a scrotum and i was licking it while another forumer watched, and i told him how it tasted. - Drahnier
I might laugh once, smile a couple of times but then begins the downhill road to the final resting place of screaming and clawing at the screen. - GillB

God is the Santa for adults.
theferret
A girl dammit!
posted 05-14-06 17:09 ET (US)     125 / 204       

Quote:

Ferret, it's true you voted for both Vis and CTZ, but only well after a bandwagon had formed on both of them.


My vote for CTZ was the second on him, after Fiindil. Fiindil presented the first case that was even close to anything near solid. I don't see how second vote is 'well after'. You made the second vote on Vis - why is that less scummy than my vote on CTZ; or Ovidius' vote on me?

We started the game one day 1, with no info to go on. I don't see why agreeing with the first reasonable argument to come along is scumy. Vis and Watchwood also agreed that CTZ made for a good target.

Quote:

It's obvious that you knew perfectly well that he was joking, and you merely used what he said as an opportunity to get it as fast as possible to night.


Believe what you want. All you have is my word. I didn't take it as a joke.

Think about this: if I was mafia, I wouldn't want a no lynch. We lynched Vis, who wasn't scum - it was a good day for the mafia. Why would I have wanted night to come early? As far as I'm concerned, long, drawn out days are in the mafia's favor, especially when they know that no one has any info on who they are.

Quote:

Looking at your voting patterns and your reaction to DB's SK comments, I'd have to say your our best lynch candidate for today. For al these reasons, my vote stays on you and I urge everyone else to look at everything against ferret carefully, and if it's enough, to vote for him.


If I was mafia I wouldn't draw attention to myself by attacking a claimed player. And, as I already said, if I was the SK I wouldn't attack him - I'd just kill him. I'm a good enough player to know how to avoid attracting attention to myself when I have something to hide. Look at every game I've played - I don't act the way I have this game when I'm scum.

Quote:

I have to ask: where did I lie twice?


You put words into my mouth - claiming that I called DB's claim obvious, when I never said anything like it.

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