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street hobo
Pleb
posted 04-17-06 14:00 ET (US)         
CBH Zombie Mafia


alive again

theferret
weavecaesar
niempie
ovidius
centurion

dead again

VisMaior (Brian M, From Music City Mafia) beaten to death by an angry, yet bored group of villagers, Day 1
Fiindil (Lisa Simpson, From Simpsons Mafia) put down like an old sick dog, Night 1

Darthbane (Townie from Shipwrecked Mafia) lynched, or something
Nonchalance (Death from Family Guy Mafia) died (?) from an overdose of holy water, Night 2
Watchwood (Paranoid Townie from Vannila City Mafia) died from a self-administered Touch of Death, Night 2
theferret (Jose J from the Music City Cafe) lynched out of boredom, Day 3
debbie (The Serial Killer from Shipwrecked Mafia) heart stopped, Night 3


CURRENT TIME: NIGHT 3.


My rules:

- I use a "Dawn" phase to finish night and give me some time to write the
night scene, and send investigation results. No posting, night talking or night actions allowed. It's short, don't worry.
- I use a "Dusk" phase to finish day and give me some time to write the lynch
scene. No posting, night talking or night actions allowed. It's short, don't
worry.
- If I made a mistake, or if you didn't get an email, or if something
bounced or if you have a question about your role, tell me about it by email,
out of thread, not to disrupt game.
- You may change your nigth action once, but no guarantees.

- Nearly all roles have been taken from previous mafia games. One way to get
more information about the powers of your player is to check out his original
game.



street hobo ~ playing cbh since 12-11-2004
CBH Stats : Win/Loss = 7/5 | Town / Scum = 7/5

[This message has been edited by street hobo (edited 06-02-2006 @ 07:05 PM).]

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WeaveCaesar
Pleb
posted 05-31-06 16:12 ET (US)     176 / 204       
I really do want to vote for Debbie. I dont know why. I just have the urge to.

I will however, bandwagon on theferret because I dont think "I am too good a player to lurk" is a particularly valid excuse.

Pretty thin, I'll admit.


unvote?
vote ferret


Why does everyone think I killed Debbie?
theferret
A girl dammit!
posted 05-31-06 18:10 ET (US)     177 / 204       

Quote:

I will however, bandwagon on theferret because I dont think "I am too good a player to lurk" is a particularly valid excuse.


Uh, well, maybe I'll try the whole "everyone else is lurking, too" line.

I was active last game day, as I thought we had a good target with DarthBane. Today, I know nothing - I have nothing to say, and no one else does, either.


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"ferret has a well-known reputation for trickery and deception"
Debbie
Pleb
posted 06-01-06 11:13 ET (US)     178 / 204       
unvote

vote ferret

I think that's four.....


Why do I always get blamed when Weave shows up dead?
da hobo
Pleb
posted 06-01-06 11:54 ET (US)     179 / 204       
And here I was thinking that June 21st was the longest day of the year...

Out of boredom, theferret was lynched. And it was not a good lynch. But seeing that most of you aren't on the town's side anyways, maybe it was a good lynch... hmm.

theferret (Jose J, from the Music City Cafe) has been lynched out of boredom.

IT IS NOW NIGHT. NIGHT ACTIONS DUE MIDNIGHT FRIDAY (SO YOU ACTUALLY GET MUCH LONGER).


"The most important thing to do in your life, is to not interfere with somebody else's life." - Zappa
street hobo
Pleb
posted 06-02-06 19:04 ET (US)     180 / 204       
As debbie walked down the street, she smiled giddily. She was on her way to her next victim's house. She was going to use a sword this time. Cool. She got it off e-bay the day before, and hadn't had much time to practice. I didn't matter though, her victim was most likely asleep. It was 3 am.

However, when she arrived at the house, someone was wating for her. Someone with a gun. As she approached the house, the figure approached her and asked her bussiness. She came close and tried to swing her sword at him, but he was too quick. He sidestepped and shot her foot. She yelped in pain, dropped the sword and hobbled, as quickly as she could manage, away from the house. But sadly for debbie, on the way back to her her hideout, there was yet another dark figure waiting for her. This one didn't have a gun, but had a siringe. Of course, debbie was running too quickly to notice him.

That is, until he grabbed her, shoved the siringe down her troath and squeezed.

Debbie's last thought were first, "Why the siringe?" and finally "Oh shit, I'm going to die." And she did.

The autopsy revealed the cause of death to be cardiac arrest, caused by ingested cyanide. A quick search of her house revealed her dark past; in a past life (this time, the phrase is used figuratively) she was a serial killer who preyed on the victims of a shipwreck. Letters revealed that this time she wasn't working alone, though, she had connections to the now deceased Nonchalance.

Debbie's (The Serial Killer from Shipwrecked Mafia) heart has stopped, due to too much cyanide

IT IS NOW DAY 4. PLEASE PLAY MAFIA, NOW THAT YOU HAVE SENT IN NIGHT ACTIONS, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE STILL ALIVE.


street hobo ~ playing cbh since 12-11-2004
CBH Stats : Win/Loss = 7/5 | Town / Scum = 7/5
Debbie
Pleb
posted 06-02-06 19:16 ET (US)     181 / 204       
A most satisfying death scene. I went out in style. Thanks Hobo

Why do I always get blamed when Weave shows up dead?
WeaveCaesar
Pleb
posted 06-03-06 05:22 ET (US)     182 / 204       
Cool, looks like the doc got a protection right, and another scum is dead.

This probably means that there is an SK out there somewhere though. Or perhaps a vig. I tend more towards the latter. Hobo said at the end that most of the remaining players were scum. If that were so and there was no SK then the game would be over right? So Id imagine that weve got 1 scum and an SK left.

I think that Centy is scum. Im not sure why, it's just he's been giving me scum vibes all the way through. I'll read back through what little we've got and see if I can pinpoint it.


Why does everyone think I killed Debbie?
CenturionZ_1
Pleb
posted 06-03-06 06:03 ET (US)     183 / 204       
So Debbie and Non were the two mafia, am I getting this right? And this means there's a lone SK still remaining? Am I correct?

Weave: I know I've played this game rather scummily what with my laying low and all. But that's not been deliberate but rather a unfortunate side effect on entering a Statistics exam.

There's four of us left. If you lynch me then, you'll be left with two townies (one of which is a doc) and the SK. You'll have to pray that not only does the SK not guess the doc correctly but the doc guesses who's the last townie. Not very good odds for the town.

So before you willy nilly cast your vote, be careful...don't do what I did last time round.


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Niempie
Pleb
posted 06-04-06 12:50 ET (US)     184 / 204       

Quoted from Centurion:

So Debbie and Non were the two mafia, am I getting this right? And this means there's a lone SK still remaining? Am I correct?


I also think that Debbie and Non were the mafia, that's what I read in the night scene. So at this point I do think that we are looking for the SK.
But I also don't have an idea who that could be.

At least we got a bit lucky last night, because we lost a mafia member.


No one is listening until you make a mistake
Ovidius
Pleb
posted 06-05-06 03:26 ET (US)     185 / 204       
Yeah, I'd say hopefully we're down to one SK left, but it's not impossible that there's one SK and one mafia left. I am pretty sure who's not, so that leaves three potentials... Am happy to wait a while before I voice my opinion on this.

And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
WeaveCaesar
Pleb
posted 06-05-06 03:53 ET (US)     186 / 204       
I just reread my last post, and realised i accidentally contradicted myself. I meant former, not latter.

Anyway, havent looked back yet, got exams. Finish today though, so ill be fully match fit tomorrow.


Why does everyone think I killed Debbie?
Ovidius
Pleb
posted 06-06-06 08:53 ET (US)     187 / 204       
Ok four left, so that means we've got to be careful...

Let's add some info to ponder... Of those of us left,

- I voted to lynch Vis;
- Weave voted to lynch Darth;
- Centy voted to lynch Darth and Ferret;
- Niempie voted to lynch Vis, Darth and Ferret.


And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
CenturionZ_1
Pleb
posted 06-07-06 06:42 ET (US)     188 / 204       
Isn't it great how collectively we've rooted for three townies.

No seriously, I guess this means we're all having trouble picking out scum in this slow a game. However, if we only have one SK, we've got to commit to our convinctions. The SK will be playing just like the rest of the town, trying to save his own skin.

We have to make a decision and stick by it.


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Ovidius
Pleb
posted 06-07-06 06:49 ET (US)     189 / 204       
Well, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume that Centy is not the person who killed Debbie last night. If he was, why would Hobo make Debbie leave the scene, only to be killed by the person she tried to kill? That leaves Weave and Niempie and I must admit that, while both seem scummy at the moment, I am leaning towards voting for Niempie.

And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
Ovidius
Pleb
posted 06-07-06 10:41 ET (US)     190 / 204       
*...and with that, the two suspicious characters disappeared again, leaving Centy and Ovi pondering what to do...*


And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
Niempie
Pleb
posted 06-07-06 11:09 ET (US)     191 / 204       

Quoted from Ovi:

*...and with that, the two suspicious characters disappeared again, leaving Centy and Ovi pondering what to do...*

I haven't disappeared, I have been sick this weekend (a heavy cold) and yesterday my 2-year old got sick. So not a lot of time left for this forum.
But we are both a lot better right now, so I found some time to check this forum.

OK, back to the game.
I didn't even know that I voted for the lynch everytime in this game. I think that has to do with the fact that this game is very slow.
But I can tell you that everytime I voted for someone in this game it was because I thought that the player was looking the scummiest at that moment. And we all know that it is very hard to tell who is scum if there is lack of posts.

I do agree with the fact that we have to be very careful about who to vote for. We have already lynched wrong three times in this game.

And about who killed Debbie last night, my thought go towards Weave, he said something about a urge to vote for Debbie without a really good reason to do that. So maybe he couldn't get her lynched by a bored town, and therefore killed her in the night?


No one is listening until you make a mistake
CenturionZ_1
Pleb
posted 06-07-06 17:03 ET (US)     192 / 204       
Ovi: if you are correct, Weave and Niempie may vote for each other which would give us two the deciding vote. I'm not going to mess up twice in a row so I'm going to follow your gut instinct. It's obvious I don't have a good one. (Remember the last game?)

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WeaveCaesar
Pleb
posted 06-07-06 21:43 ET (US)     193 / 204       

Quote:

And about who killed Debbie last night, my thought go towards Weave, he said something about a urge to vote for Debbie without a really good reason to do that. So maybe he couldn't get her lynched by a bored town, and therefore killed her in the night?

wow, how stupid of me. I let mt intentions to kill Debbie leak out without proper thought and have exposed myself as the SK! How ironic! Yes, very good accusation Niempie, possibly the best Ive heard since OMG YOU SUCK!

Yet, Im not going to vote for you, cos you are not scum. Ovidius comes out with some of the worst logic Ive ever heard, and Centy seems pretty eager to let him take whatever fall he wants to.

Quote:

I'm not going to mess up twice in a row so I'm going to follow your gut instinct. It's obvious I don't have a good one. (Remember the last game?)

what a rubbish statement, nobody thinks like that in mafia. "I made a mistake one time, so im going to let you vote first, then I'll lynch" (assuming me and Niempie vote for each other). No, too easy. You're both acting summy there.

My suspicions were on Centy bcos of his casting the lynch vote a couple of days ago and seeming faux reluctant to do so. No, im fairly sure two of you three are scum. As I said before, Hobo said "most of you are not on the town side anyway". That suggests last night, when there were 5 of us left, 3 of us were scum. One dead leaves an SK and a mafia and two townies. Which suggests a precarious position, because youd think the town is screwed, but we have a doc left. So we lynch scum today, the Doc protects the townie and the town wins. Yet, nobody seems to want to address this scenario. You're all just assuming there's only an SK out there, and I dont know why. 4/11 as scum is not that unlikely here. I'm now much less likely to vote for Niempie than I ever was before. Ovi seems to want to paint himself and Centy as the only people playing the game, while Centy seems fixated on being Cliffesque naive townie.

I reread and couldnt find what was bugging me about Centy, but it doesnt matter. Those last 5 posts are some of the scummiest in the game so far.


Why does everyone think I killed Debbie?
Ovidius
Pleb
posted 06-08-06 08:19 ET (US)     194 / 204       

Quoted from Weave:

Ovi seems to want to paint himself and Centy as the only people playing the game


It's called goading, and it achieved my desired aim... posts!

Ok, I must admit, I missed that part about scum being in the majority... Actually, I remember reading it, but it didn't penetrate.

Let's go through this. At five left, non-town are in the majority. Debbie, a scum member, targets Centy, a character of unknown alignment. Debbie fails in her attempt, but is in turn killed by a third party. With Debbie dead, we're down to two town, two non-town. Now, we had three scum and an SK because clearly if we had had two scum + two scum, the game would now be over. So we are definitely left with two killing 'groups' of one person each.

We know Debbie and Centy were not on the same team, so either Centy is town or he is SK (I am now quite willing to entertain the latter possibility - Hobo can't exactly tell us that Centy got out of bed and plunged the syringe into Debbie's throat). If he is town, then both Weave and Niempie are evil and it doesn't make a difference who we vote for really. If Centy is not town, he has to be SK, definitely not the third scum. That'd mean one of Weave or Niempie are scum.

That said, it's still 50-50 for each of you three being evil, so that's not much help. I will agree that Centy's positioning of himself as a follower is somewhat disturbing. Perhaps we should claim and see if it helps us out...

However, I think that in this situation, the only real hope for the town is a no-lynch. If we lynch one of the two killers, the town is screwed. There is no doc, unless there is a back-up doc. Why? Because these are the roles of the dead, from the various game threads:

Brian M - townie
Lisa Simpson - Cop
Townie - townie
Death - scum
Paranoid townie - paranoid townie
Jose J - Doc
SK - scum

... and I'd gamble that Weave knows this. He wants us to lynch because that'll play into his hands. Lynch town, he can still win. Lynch the other killer, he will win. That's why he keeps telling us that the doc will guess the townie right and save the day. Of course, he doesn't tell us that if there is no doc, or if the killer guesses the doc correctly, town will have lost. How about we lynch nobody and he has to play prisoner's dilemma with the other killer...

(The game setup is then 2 vanilla townies, 1 paranoid townie, 1 cop, 1 doc, 2 scum plus (from the four of us) 1 scum, 1 SK, 1 unknown protown + 1 unknown protown. Of these two unknown protown roles, I don't see that there is a vig or a backup cop. The backup cop would have come forward with investigation results already and I don't see space for a paranoid townie and a vig in this game. Possibly a backup doc, but it'd need something to balance it, and I am not sure how to balance that out with the final unknown protown role.)


And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
WeaveCaesar
Pleb
posted 06-08-06 20:34 ET (US)     195 / 204       
Wow. Sound reasoning Ovi. Just a couple of problems.

a) what have you added to my post before?

b) If there's no doc left alive, why was there only one kill last night? and also, why the fact that Debbie got shot in the foot and so couldnt kill her night target?

Quote:

We know Debbie and Centy were not on the same team, so either Centy is town or he is SK (I am now quite willing to entertain the latter possibility - Hobo can't exactly tell us that Centy got out of bed and plunged the syringe into Debbie's throat). If he is town, then both Weave and Niempie are evil and it doesn't make a difference who we vote for really. If Centy is not town, he has to be SK, definitely not the third scum. That'd mean one of Weave or Niempie are scum.

HOW do we know Centy and Debbie weren't on the same team?

Quote:

Well, I'd say it's pretty safe to assume that Centy is not the person who killed Debbie last night. If he was, why would Hobo make Debbie leave the scene, only to be killed by the person she tried to kill? That leaves Weave and Niempie and I must admit that, while both seem scummy at the moment, I am leaning towards voting for Niempie.

Im sorry, I dont see the part where we know that Debs targeted Centy. Ive read the death scene 3 times now, yet I see no sign of Centurion's name. Have I missed something?


You're pushing an angle with no proof as far as I can see, backing it up with crap logic and an apparent desire for "posts". Your actions are so scummy they scream to be mistakes. But you're a good player. So why?


Why does everyone think I killed Debbie?
Ovidius
Pleb
posted 06-09-06 03:25 ET (US)     196 / 204       
Darn! That just goes to show that one should be careful to remember what is common knowledge and private knowledge...

There was only one kill last night, because when Debbie tried to kill Centy, she found me there waiting for her.

VOTE NO LYNCH.

Remember, if I die tonight, no lynch remains the only option for the town.


And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
Niempie
Pleb
posted 06-10-06 09:47 ET (US)     197 / 204       
The no-lynch....

I'm not a big fan of a no-lynch in mafia games. They usually benefit scum more than the town. But I can see that we won't get a majority in votes right now, so I'm willing to vote for a no-lynch right now.

Vote: No-lynch


No one is listening until you make a mistake
CenturionZ_1
Pleb
posted 06-10-06 15:48 ET (US)     198 / 204       
So what role do you have Ovi? Town vigilante?

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WeaveCaesar
Pleb
posted 06-10-06 18:26 ET (US)     199 / 204       
If you're the person who prevented Centy's death last night and you're not a Doc, then a no lynch is probably the only way for the town yes. But, if there are two kills, then it means endgame.

Vote No Lynch

Little else we can do, and this game has benn floundering for a while.


Why does everyone think I killed Debbie?
CenturionZ_1
Pleb
posted 06-11-06 17:41 ET (US)     200 / 204       
I'm still not 100% sure we've made the rigth decision, but that's 3 no lynch votes so I guess no lynch it is.

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