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Topic Subject:The Bold and the Days of All Our Beautiful Children's Lives - GAME THREAD
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Ovidius
Pleb
posted 12-02-05 05:50 ET (US)         
Peaceville...
Population 18 (or so it seems – our soap opera doesn’t feature non-core characters too often).

On the surface, Peaceville is, well, peaceful. But the veneer of civilisation is cracked and peeling. Things aren’t always what they seem. Prepare for power struggles, lust, betrayal, love triangles, intrigue, hospitals and doctors and DNA tests and pills, mad(wo)men and basements, brain implants, brain tumours, hospitals, leukemia, hospitals, policemen and their longsuffering wives, hospitals, princesses, long-lost twin siblings, mothers-in-law from hell, burnt out car wrecks with charred bodies, clearly recognizable by their inscribed rings, blurred generations where the ages of people, their half-siblings, their children, their grandchildren are separated by ten years, serial brides and grooms, and did we mention hospitals?

Still covered in suds...(1):
Celt in Exile

All washed up...
Bobby Ewfield, aka Bengel, blown to smithereens, Night 0.
Gracie Keller, aka Supa Psyche, mason, became a human pincushion, Day 1.
Sister Rose Aimes, aka CenturionZ_1, nurse, killed in a hit-and-run 'accident', Night 1.
Father Patrick O'Reilly, aka Sergius Laudius, day cop, gunned down at the chapel, Night 1.
Sheila Davids, aka Nonchalant, madwoman, killed in a shoot-out with police, Night 1.
Dr Jason Melville, aka Street Hobo, doc, driven out of Peaceville, Day 2.
Bobby Ewfield, aka Bengel, dreamer townie, blown to smithereens again, Night 2.
Heather Templeton, aka Starkey, self-recruiting mafia member, unplugged from life support, Night 2.
Lizzy Tylah, aka Watchwood, mason, smoked one too many, Day 3.
Viktor Malado, aka Rayotep, crazy scientist, has been eliminated, Night 3.
Dot Weatherly, aka VisMaior, scum matriarch, has gotten her come-uppance, Night 3.
Timber Masterson, aka Sul, scum son, has died almost unnoticed of a wasting disease, Day 4.
David Scott, aka Debbie, townie, killed by shooting and hit-and-run, Night 4.
Maximillian Weatherly, aka Reckless Rodent, scum patriarch, has splattered very publicly, Day 5
Brady Beauman, aka Darth, cop, has followed in his father's footsteps, to his grave, Night 5.
Cliff Masterson, aka Niempie, scum patriarch, has been shot, Night 5.
Steve Scott, aka Debbie, one-shot vigilanted lynched, Day 6.
Daisy Masterson, aka Weave, scum matriarch, killed in head-on collision, Night 6.
Resin Weatherly, aka Kedi, scum son, killed in head-on collision, Night 6.

GAME OVER: TOWN WINS.

NNB: Check your email before posting.


And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie

[This message has been edited by Ovidius (edited 02-19-2006 @ 03:39 PM).]

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Reckless Rodent
HG Halo Alumnus
(id: Angel Reckless Rodent)
posted 12-09-05 01:24 ET (US)     51 / 354       
Unvote Ray, huge FOS SP

I'm not voting now because to do so would put you one vote away from a lynch, and I think that you deserve to have the opportunity to make your roleclaim. Not, I suspect, that it will really make much of a difference thanks to your dreadful playing strategy so far.

VisMaior
Pleb
posted 12-09-05 04:45 ET (US)     52 / 354       
Whoa, people, lets be serious! It was obviously a joke! FOS: everybody pushing the SP wagon, especially StarKey!
Ovidius
Pleb
posted 12-09-05 05:32 ET (US)     53 / 354       
Friday Lunchtime Vote Count:
17 alive means 9 to lynch...

Supa - 7 (Centurion, Kedi, Non, Ray, Starkey, Sul, Weave)
Centurion - 2 (Niempie, Watchwood)
Celt - 1 (Vis)
Starkey - 1 (Debbie)
Vis - 1 (Darth)

Not Voting - 5 (Celt, Reck, Sergius, Hobo, Supa)

Congratulation, you've also earned your first deadline: Friday 16 December, 17h00 GMT.


And the neural alignment of Ovidius is also very strange - Niempie
Debbie
Pleb
posted 12-09-05 09:12 ET (US)     54 / 354       
unvote Starkey
vote Supa Psyche

Why do I always get blamed when Weave shows up dead?
Celt in Exile
Pleb
(id: Peter Kane)
posted 12-09-05 10:17 ET (US)     55 / 354       
This guy really needs to speak and quick.
He could be a jerk with a crap sense of humour or a scum gambling on an outragious tactic and losing.
I really do not know, so I still will not condemn him as he deserves at least one more shot at trying to convince us of his innocence.

Gwell Angau na Chywilydd
Puveyor of industrial-strength corsetry and cheese
Men only buy flowers for one of two reasons-guilt or gratitude
StarKey
Pharaolympics 2000 Competitor
posted 12-09-05 11:36 ET (US)     56 / 354       
Seeing as how I've been accused of "pushing the SP wagon", and having only cast the second vote, it hardly seems I started a bandwagon and I don't want to be unfair and not give the guy an honest chance to explain, so I'll simply for the time being:

unvote: Supa_Psyche

You're on the clock SP!!

Now as for VisMajor, we almost have a consensus vote here and by your sticking up for SP, it's startin' to make you smell a little scummy as well...stickin' up for one of your crew is it?

VisMaior
Pleb
posted 12-09-05 11:42 ET (US)     57 / 354       
No. Or, well, maybe if you mean townies as "my crew". I simply dont think that that 1 line joke warrants a wagon of this magnitude.
CenturionZ_1
Pleb
posted 12-09-05 16:47 ET (US)     58 / 354       
Supa is not a dumb player...he's pretty experienced. Therefore I don't believe he is dumb enough to rnadomly post and day one 'Vote for me' without thought.

The post was probably a pre-meditated act to try and looker dumber than he actually is and throw off the scent.

Besides, if we don't vote for him, which other bandwagon are we going to jump on? Are we going to give the mafia a free night?


CenturionZ_1
HG Angel
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Supa_Psyche
Pleb
posted 12-09-05 17:25 ET (US)     59 / 354       

Quote:

Besides, if we don't vote for him, which other bandwagon are we going to jump on? Are we going to give the mafia a free night?

No, we should vote for the people who were incredibly quick to vote for me with little or no evidence. Not just the ones who voted for me, but that ones that sensed a bandwagon and jumped on it, hoping to get to night time quickly. Giving the scum a free night would be stupid, but giving them a free lynch would be even worse.

Quote:

This guy really needs to speak and quick.
He could be a jerk with a crap sense of humour or a scum gambling on an outragious tactic and losing.
I really do not know, so I still will not condemn him as he deserves at least one more shot at trying to convince us of his innocence.

To be fair, when I made my post, who else was being considered to be lynched? And how many of you took my post seriously? If you did I find that incredibly thick, maybe I should have put in some kind of smilie so you could understand better.

Quote:

The post was probably a pre-meditated act to try and looker dumber than he actually is and throw off the scent.

Or it was just a lighthearted jest to try and lighten up the modd of the game a bit?

Quote:

No. Or, well, maybe if you mean townies as "my crew". I simply dont think that that 1 line joke warrants a wagon of this magnitude.

Exactly, and I've already apologized for drawing to much attention to myself. Obviously none of you understand the Aussie sense of humour.

You know what the scum are doing right now? Sitting back and laughingat the stupidity of the town for forming such a large bandwagon on no evidence. That's the kind of thing that helps mafia, and good (by good I mean good players) scum would try and manipulate these kind of bandwagons that arise from practically no-where into bigger ones that they can use to their advantage.

Now, I hope that I've cleared myself up a bit, but if I do end up being lynched, then the ones driving the bandwagon should be immediately thrown under suspicion.

The good thing that is has done, is create a bandwagon, but not the lynching of a pro-town player. So, based on pure numbers we can discern that scum were on that bandwagon. So let's take a look at who was on my bandwagon, and see if there's anything else suspicious we can find, mmkay?


"ALL POWER TO THE SOVIET" - Natalina
"GROW THE HELL UP, OD!" - Izzy
"ISNT THE RIGHT TO EMULATE POWERUPS FROM SUPER MARIO PROTECTED BY THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION???" - legion
Kedi
Pleb
posted 12-09-05 21:16 ET (US)     60 / 354       

Quoted from Supa_Psyche:

No, we should vote for the people who were incredibly quick to vote for me with little or no evidence.


In a game like this, does anyone ever have evidence, per se? It does seem strange post to make, even if

Quoted from Supa_Psyche:

..it was just a lighthearted jest to try and lighten up the modd of the game a bit?


Can you tell me why you thought the mood needed to be lightened? It actually seemed to me to be in fairly good humour.


Quoted from Supa_Psyche:

To be fair, when I made my post, who else was being considered to be lynched?


You certainly stirred up some action, obviously not what you expected. But what did you expect? Your post above seems to me to be sort of volunteering to be lynched. In what way would it have helped us consider someone else to lynch?

Quoted from Supa_Psyche:

Obviously none of you understand the Aussie sense of humour.

Well, I'm an Aussie too and I laugh at most jokes my fellow Aussies make - this didn't strike me as particularly funny, sorry. Maybe you're right, a smilie might have helped.

Smile!
Supa_Psyche
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 02:27 ET (US)     61 / 354       

Quote:

Can you tell me why you thought the mood needed to be lightened? It actually seemed to me to be in fairly good humour.

To answer your question, I shall ask another question. Is it really worth finding out my motives for making a one line joke post? And do you think it's worth paying something so trivial so much attention?

Quote:

Maybe you're right, a smilie might have helped.

Had I not over-estimated the intelligence of the players here, I probably would have used one.


"ALL POWER TO THE SOVIET" - Natalina
"GROW THE HELL UP, OD!" - Izzy
"ISNT THE RIGHT TO EMULATE POWERUPS FROM SUPER MARIO PROTECTED BY THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION???" - legion
Celt in Exile
Pleb
(id: Peter Kane)
posted 12-10-05 04:49 ET (US)     62 / 354       

Quoted from Sp:

Quote:

This guy really needs to speak and quick.
He could be a jerk with a crap sense of humour or a scum gambling on an outragious tactic and losing.
I really do not know, so I still will not condemn him as he deserves at least one more shot at trying to convince us of his innocence.

To be fair, when I made my post, who else was being considered to be lynched? And how many of you took my post seriously? If you did I find that incredibly thick, maybe I should have put in some kind of smilie so you could understand better.


Quote:


I did not take your post as serious or a joke. Just stupid.
After reading your explanation, it seems that 'a jerk with a crap sense of humour' could be right.
And note: I did not vote to lynch you, I suggested one more chance to explain yourself.
Calling me thick is a good way to make me vote for you on principle.

Gwell Angau na Chywilydd
Puveyor of industrial-strength corsetry and cheese
Men only buy flowers for one of two reasons-guilt or gratitude
Supa_Psyche
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 05:48 ET (US)     63 / 354       
Your "jerk with a crap sense of humour" remarks would be apt, if I had just let myself end up being killed to ruin the fun of everyone else playing.

Quote:

Calling me thick is a good way to make me vote for you on principle.

And that's a good way of proving it.


"ALL POWER TO THE SOVIET" - Natalina
"GROW THE HELL UP, OD!" - Izzy
"ISNT THE RIGHT TO EMULATE POWERUPS FROM SUPER MARIO PROTECTED BY THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION???" - legion
Celt in Exile
Pleb
(id: Peter Kane)
posted 12-10-05 06:13 ET (US)     64 / 354       
OK
VOTE Supa Psyche

Gwell Angau na Chywilydd
Puveyor of industrial-strength corsetry and cheese
Men only buy flowers for one of two reasons-guilt or gratitude
WeaveCaesar
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 08:37 ET (US)     65 / 354       
I can understand your exasperation at being in this situation if you are indeed a mere townie or something, Ive got into such a situation several times in mafia by trying to be funny (and usually failing). But, on the other hand you cant act as if it's entirely not your fault by insinuating that everyone else is stupid just because they didnt realise it was a joke. You say

Quote:

To answer your question, I shall ask another question. Is it really worth finding out my motives for making a one line joke post? And do you think it's worth paying something so trivial so much attention?

yet what the hell do you think mafia is for lots of players if not the analysis of people's words.

If you want to get out of the scenario the way to do it is to argue your case, not play some childish game of brinkmanship with PK or resort to cultural explainations of your actions.

I think you are now at around 8 votes, i suggest you come up with something very quickly or you'll be dead. I shall "help" by unvoting. But be quick, nobody likes being called a jerk, but nobody likes being called stupid either.


Why does everyone think I killed Debbie?
Debbie
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 10:35 ET (US)     66 / 354       

Quote:

To answer your question, I shall ask another question. Is it really worth finding out my motives for making a one line joke post?

were you told to make such a post?


Why do I always get blamed when Weave shows up dead?
Rayotep
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 10:47 ET (US)     67 / 354       

Quoted from Debbie, post 66:

were you told to make such a post?

Interesting question. Were you told to do something, Debs?

I didn't say anything at the time but I noticed that you unvoted for StarKey and then revoted for Supa_Psyche without any explanation at all. That's unlike you. Now with your question for Supa, I wonder if maybe you were told to do something. Is this correct?


Rayotep

One thing only I know, and that is that I know nothing - Socrates

It is Ray's nature to post long, (well for politeness sake I'll refrain from using the word faux) logical posts attempting to clear himself of everything - WeaveCaesar

Debbie
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 11:55 ET (US)     68 / 354       
I have to ignore that question.

Why do I always get blamed when Weave shows up dead?
Rayotep
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 12:08 ET (US)     69 / 354       
Which basically answers the question.

Okay, so someone is, at least to some extent, pulling Debs' strings. Is the same happening to Supa?

I didn't get that impression from his posts, but I guess it's possible.

Anybody else got any ideas?


Rayotep

One thing only I know, and that is that I know nothing - Socrates

It is Ray's nature to post long, (well for politeness sake I'll refrain from using the word faux) logical posts attempting to clear himself of everything - WeaveCaesar

watchwood
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 12:26 ET (US)     70 / 354       
Could he have been intentionally baiting? Knowing that scum would be looking hard for someone not of their own to get lynched on day 1, went and made himself a target to see who would go after him first? I figure that a scum would be glad to have such an opportunitie, and would jump on it. Given the level of the players here I think it's fairly safe to assume that several of us would have noted the first couple people to go after him, assuming he turned out to be town if he got lynched. Either way I think a close look into the first couple people to vote for him could prove benificial.


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StarKey
Pharaolympics 2000 Competitor
posted 12-10-05 12:40 ET (US)     71 / 354       
I noticed the same thing Ray with her unvote/vote message. I felt at the time that it was an extremely uncharacteristic type of post for Debs, normally she is much more verbose. I simply attributed it to her trying to slip in a quick vote and hopefully go undetected, and then one of her crew could then take the kill shot. But she's much to good of a player to try that type of tactic, so maybe what you say is true about her being told or given instructions, but then again maybe she got caught with her hand in the cookie jar and her way out is to say she can't talk about it.

I need to go back and study the last several posts since my previous visit, there seems to have been some heated debate...something about the people here lacking intelligence or some such nonsense. Good stuff!!!

We need to get some more people expressing some opinions and adding to the conversation...to many quiet lurkers out there.

I'm off to sleep for the day...long night at work last night!!

CenturionZ_1
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 17:38 ET (US)     72 / 354       
Whatever happens, we need to form a consensus before Friday, so once the suspicious character is found, we can't have all this dawdling.

unvote

Let's give everyone some time and not just lynch SP because he posted one stupid joke. Maybe he is scum, but that's sure a dumb way to go if you are.


CenturionZ_1
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Debbie
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 19:19 ET (US)     73 / 354       

Quote:

but then again maybe she got caught with her hand in the cookie jar and her way out is to say she can't talk about it

Starkey, you are a first class ass. You think I'm scum vote for me. Stop your innuendos and back stabbing niceties. It's getting old.

Barring any more unforseen events, my vote stays where it is today. Tomorrow I can answer any questions you or anybody else wants.


Why do I always get blamed when Weave shows up dead?
Supa_Psyche
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 20:39 ET (US)     74 / 354       

Quote:

I can understand your exasperation at being in this situation if you are indeed a mere townie or something, Ive got into such a situation several times in mafia by trying to be funny (and usually failing). But, on the other hand you cant act as if it's entirely not your fault by insinuating that everyone else is stupid just because they didnt realise it was a joke.

I accept full responsibility for my actions, hence my apology earlier in the thread for wasting the town's time. Now let's drop this nonsense.

Quote:

Could he have been intentionally baiting? Knowing that scum would be looking hard for someone not of their own to get lynched on day 1, went and made himself a target to see who would go after him first?

I wasn't intentionally baiting, but that's one positive that has come out of it.

Quote:

Is the same happening to Supa?

No it isn't. I'm not so certain about Debbie though. She could've just slipped up if she was scum.

Quote:

Let's give everyone some time and not just lynch SP because he posted one stupid joke. Maybe he is scum, but that's sure a dumb way to go if you are.

I sincerely hope no-one thinks I'm that stupid.


"ALL POWER TO THE SOVIET" - Natalina
"GROW THE HELL UP, OD!" - Izzy
"ISNT THE RIGHT TO EMULATE POWERUPS FROM SUPER MARIO PROTECTED BY THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION???" - legion
Nonchalant
Pleb
posted 12-10-05 22:39 ET (US)     75 / 354       
Just because Debbie may or may not be constrained into doing something or talking about something has nothing to do with supa.

Personally, I still think he's scum, or, at th every least, did something very scummy. And no, I wasn't one on the first on the bandwagon to encourage it to start up. We gave Supa plenty of time to explain exactly why he decided to deliberatley get himself lynched. Basically, his answers have been 'to lighten up the mood' and 'to get some discussion going, because we didn't have nay leads as to whom to lynch.' Clearly, this isn't anywhere near a satisfactory explanation. As it was pointed out by Kedi, the modd of the thread was light enough, and, if we didn't have any clues as to whom to lynch, why on Earth would someone point to themselves as a target?

You can't throw a hunk of meat at a pack of ravenous dogs and call them 'thick' and 'stupid' and saying they 'didn't get your joke.'

Basically, either you're scum and you tried reverse psychology to protect yourself, or you're a townie and you're simply asking for it. You're clearly not an important role for the town, or you would have said so much earlier than now. In fact, if you do suddenly see you're doomed and claim doc or cop, we still wouldn't believe you because you're simply doing it to save your ass. No doc or cop would ask the town to lynch them.
So it boils down to one of two possibilities: either you're scum, and we should lynch you, or you're a suicidal vanilla townie, and we should take you out of your misery and grant you your wish.

We're not going to get anything else done today. The rest of the mafia will sit tight, so as to not draw attention to themselves, as they see the town already has a victim. If we suddenly decide not to lynch Supa, then we'll assuredly be finishing the day lynchless. So, ask yourself: lynch noone and give the mafia a free night, or have a 50% chance of lynching a mafia member, and 50% chance a suicidal vanilla townie.

I don't know about you, but for me at least, the decision is obvious.

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