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Topic Subject:Which of the Series?
posted 11-11-10 07:55 ET (US)         
I was an old time Caesar III player and remembered lurking in Caesar III heavens forums looking for tips and housing block ideas around 2000-2001. Had fond (and not so fond) memories of building palace blocks in big complicated cities I would have ever succeed on my own without the detailed data and research by the the old members.

10 years down the road and I want to relive the magic. :P However, I had not tried much of the later games of the series. I would let you ask the all the old and new members on their opinion of the following:
Caesar III

Pharaoh & Cleopatra

Zeus & Poseidon

Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom
Which of the series should I go back and play? Which is the greatest of the series?

What are the differences in gameplay? I am aware of the obvious different period settings, I am thinking more in line of interface and game mechanics.

posted 11-11-10 08:21 ET (US)     1 / 11       
posted 11-11-10 12:13 ET (US)     2 / 11       
Thanks! Those threads answered more or less all my concerns. I guess C3 is still going strong after all these years, looks like C3 is the one I would start with.

I tried the basic Pharaoh for just a bit when it was just released but didn't get very far. Had never tried either Zeus and Emperor.
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posted 11-20-10 20:54 ET (US)     3 / 11       
Caesar 3 all the way, it's still my favourite, and is what brought me to this place, I've tried a bit of Pharaoh and Emperor too and they're quite nice. As with all games, you really just need to have some spare time to get into it.

Are you by any chance from Singapore though?... Just guessing from your screen name.
posted 12-15-10 09:35 ET (US)     4 / 11       
I have played more C3 than I would like to admit.

However, I always got frustrated by the retarded walkers. It was as though they deliberately TRIED everything possible to walk AWAY from their most obvious routes. I don't understand why the developers never came up with a C3 patch with a simple thing as a much needed road block. Also I don't like the way the C3 farming works. I like the challenges combined with seasons etc.

I found all of those things in EmperorRotMK, and I play it all the time now.
posted 02-04-11 03:09 ET (US)     5 / 11       
several day,I faced the same problem. Now I know more. thanks so much
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posted 02-04-11 09:51 ET (US)     6 / 11       
with a simple thing as a much needed road block.
Fun thing is that when Impressions implemented the road block they found out it was not that simple getting to work correctly.

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posted 03-27-11 00:16 ET (US)     7 / 11       
CIII is my all-time favourite and the one I go back to the most, even if its just to loose myself for a while in a sandbox map. Its my favourite for being the most memorable - my first city builder - ugly cities, zero military tactics, alternating between barely scraping through a scenario and pulling at oars. Memorable for the effect the game had on me - rush-hour commuters became baying wolves, I prayed for Mercury to spirit my boss away, I walked the streets dreaming of perfect housing blocks. Ah, such fond memories.

I liked the mythology in Zeus - the heroes and Gods. The insults when failing to meet requests on time was a fun element and you could pay off enemies instead of fighting. I liked that, best of all!

I enjoyed both Pharaoh/Cleopatra and Emperor. I haven't revisted them in years, but now that I have a new PC I have to make sure all the games work on it. Caesar III first, though.
posted 05-18-11 15:13 ET (US)     8 / 11       
Way back when I gave either Caesar or Caesar II a try and found it boring. (I thought the same of the original Age of Empires.) Anyway, I think I was more into playing Sim City, AOEII, and whatever version of Civilization was around.

Then I saw Pharaoh at the store. It had rave reviews on the box cover and I liked the Egyptian theme. I bought it and it has been the game I played most of the ones mentioned here. I'm not sure I ever heard of Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom. I have Children of the Nile but never played it much: couldn't get into the flow of the game.

Competing for my time and attention was Zeus. It was, um, different. The most vivid thing I recall was some element that struck me as rather toylike: maybe it was statues. I don't remember. I think I recall that it was also easier to play (i.e., build cities) than Pharaoh. Maybe it had smarter walkers and/or less complex cities. It was enjoyable.

I would like to give Caesar a go (the game that is). Would someone recommend Caesar III or IV?

But I just reread this thread and someone mentions that C3 doesn't have roadblocks. Wouldn't this be major drawback as compared to, say, Pharaoh?

Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian; she was Greek.

[This message has been edited by kar_nak88 (edited 05-18-2011 @ 03:18 PM).]

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posted 05-18-11 15:45 ET (US)     9 / 11       
C3 doesn't have roadblocks. Wouldn't this be major drawback as compared to, say, Pharaoh?
The lack of roadblocks does make C3 a little harder. Whether that is a drawback depends on your point of view.

In terms of walker control, gatehouses function the same as roadblocks. Compared to roadblocks, gatehouses are large, ugly, expensive, and undesirable, but are so helpful that many of us use them a lot.

There are maybe a dozen ways in which Pharaoh was made easier than C3 (and a few in which Pharaoh was made harder). Many players like that Pharaoh is easier. Some of us consider that a drawback, but enjoy the additions (such as monument building, floodplain farming, ferries, warships, actual resource gatherers). I like both games about equally well. (I haven't played Zeus, since it seemed too easy, but my daughter enjoyed it.) I won't guess what your reaction to C3 would be.
posted 05-18-11 17:05 ET (US)     10 / 11       
Hi Brugle

The additions that you mention in Pharaoh ("such as monument building, floodplain farming, ferries, warships, actual resource gatherers") seems to me to tip the balance in favor of Pharaoh over C3. Especially monuments. But once I ever complete the Pharaoh and Cleopatra campaigns, I might try C3. But I may be so used to building monuments that not building monuments would be too much of a letdown.

Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian; she was Greek.
posted 05-19-11 14:58 ET (US)     11 / 11       
Right now I'm thoroughy enjoying Pharaoh, after having completed the CaesarIII career twice. I can recommend both, each for the different reasons already mentioned here.
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