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Civis Romanus
Angel
posted 09-29-01 13:12 ET (US)         
COMPANION DISCUSSION THREAD TO THE MIST OF TIMEThis thread is created to provide the writing team and others a forum for communication on matters pertaining to the story THE MIST OF TIME now being written in the Community Forum. Please use this thread for discussion only. Do not communicate to each other in the story thread itself.

HOW THIS THREAD IS ORGANIZED:The first section of this header will describe the story's elements and characteristics. The second section will contain a categorized list of links suggested in posts as information for other writers to review and use. The last section will contain links to the other two threads comprising the trio of threads created for THE MIST OF TIME.

SECTION I - STORY ELEMENTS:
TYPE: Epic Adventure
TONE: Drama with comedy sequences.
STYLE: Strong characterizations; rich descriptions.
POST CONTENT: Two or more paragraphs per post.
LEVEL OF VIOLENCE: Moderately graphic.
FANTASY CONTENT: Pragmatic Mysticisim (See Post#20, below, for an explanation of this term) or Period Mysticism (See Post#28, below, for an explanation of this term).
OTHER GUIDELINES: Light innuendo with respect to gender and related content.

SECTION II - LINKS TO INFORMATION:

HISTORICAL SETTING:
England Around 500 AD

Vortigern
Dark Ages Brittain
Map of Anglo-Saxon England


HENGIST AND HORSA:
http://camelot.celtic-twilight.com/poetry/hall45.htm
http://www.bartleby.com/65/he/HengistN.html
http://www.ghg.net/shetler/oldimp/161.html

CULTURE - MUSIC - ARTS - OTHER
Costumes

SECTION III - LINKS TO RELATED THREADS:
STORY THREAD and CHARACTER DETAIL THREAD

[This message has been edited by Civis Romanus (edited 10-21-2001 @ 01:39 PM).]

AuthorReplies:
Duan Xuan
Pleb
posted 09-29-01 23:59 ET (US)     1 / 363       
Er, can we start the story right after the Prologue?

D XUAN
Civis Romanus
Angel
posted 09-30-01 01:31 ET (US)     2 / 363       
Yes, Duan Xuan, you may begin posting to the story. But do take your time. Develop your character thoroughly. Understand the story as if you were there living it; for as you write it you are in fact living it in a way.

Looking forward to your additions.

Duan Xuan
Pleb
posted 09-30-01 04:26 ET (US)     3 / 363       
Hmm... I don't really like to write out the start... The start leads to the rest of the sequence, and I want to see how others write it first. Then I'll continue.

D XUAN
ZigZac
Pleb
posted 09-30-01 05:38 ET (US)     4 / 363       
Nice Prologue and Beginning Civis.

ZigZac
"When women hold off from marrying men, we call it independence. When men hold off from marrying women, we call it fear of commitment."
Civis Romanus
Angel
posted 09-30-01 13:17 ET (US)     5 / 363       
Thank you, ZigZac. Very nice of you to say so. Looking forward to your posts when you are ready to jump in.

Duan Xuan: A later entry into the story is perfectly okay. I like it that you are going to watch the story develop before you post. There is more initial development necessary before the story really unfolds and all of the characters can begin to interrelate with each other.

I'm sure you'll know when the time is right.

Yes, Windplume, your character is a smelly Saxon named (if you accept Jayhawk's suggestion) Wulf. Please edit your post in the CHARACTER DETAIL THREAD according to the instructions in the header to that thread. If you need help ask for it in your post to the CHARACTER DETAIL THREAD. You can use the links in the header above to easily navigate to the CHARACTER DETAIL THREAD. Welcome aboard, Windplume.

[This message has been edited by Civis Romanus (edited 09-30-2001 @ 01:42 PM).]

Windplume
Pleb
posted 09-30-01 22:56 ET (US)     6 / 363       
Done...

For clarity, what does PG-13 entail? (Titanic is PG-13, and has nudity)

Cian McGuire
Member
posted 09-30-01 22:59 ET (US)     7 / 363       
Goblins?

How deep into fantasy shall we get mired here?

At AoKH, Jayhawk and I and a few others kept the setting roughly historical, but there was some magical overtones- at least until I dropped out..

So- what's the deal?


In vino veritas
ZigZac
Pleb
posted 09-30-01 23:35 ET (US)     8 / 363       
Windplume

I think what Civis meant was no "graphic" secenes like blood dripping out of this guys head after ramming your sword through it, stuff like that.

Cian

Delving into mystical things from the Middle Ages is always fun, but I think that we should probabley stay more toward letting the story unfold for right now, so we can get a basis, then maybe get into the deep mysticism.


ZigZac
"When women hold off from marrying men, we call it independence. When men hold off from marrying women, we call it fear of commitment."
Cian McGuire
Member
posted 10-01-01 02:58 ET (US)     9 / 363       
I would rather that we did that as well, I was refering in particular to this:

Quote:
A band of creature, which look like goblins, were obviously attacking the village.

So much for "letting the story unfold,"


In vino veritas
Jayhawk
Eminence Grise
posted 10-01-01 03:25 ET (US)     10 / 363       
Prolly the guys that witnessed the attack were drunk

Besides, I'm prett sure Saxons look like goblins

The tone should be mystic ratehr than full-fledged fantasy, I'd say.

Cian, nice to have you along

Cian McGuire
Member
posted 10-01-01 03:33 ET (US)     11 / 363       
Thank you- once I saw the setting I found it hard to restrain myself... then I started doing some research for my character- followed some links to my name, and *pooof*- I was hooked

Quote:
The tone should be mystic ratehr than full-fledged fantasy, I'd say.

I agree .


In vino veritas
Jayhawk
Eminence Grise
posted 10-01-01 04:06 ET (US)     12 / 363       
Somehow I knew this one would catch your attention
Cian McGuire
Member
posted 10-01-01 04:16 ET (US)     13 / 363       
Yeah, it's imaginitive- I'm thinking about inviting some from SPSW who might be interested in it...

In vino veritas
Jayhawk
Eminence Grise
posted 10-01-01 10:04 ET (US)     14 / 363       
They'd be more than welcome.
Cyber Paladin
Pleb
posted 10-01-01 10:38 ET (US)     15 / 363       
Well, sorry for getting too deep into fantasy~
That part of story was from the perspective of Aurelius, who comes from Azeroth, where goblins exists in vast numbers.

And Ysbrand owns quite a number of creatures isn't him?

Cyber Paladin
Pleb
posted 10-01-01 10:44 ET (US)     16 / 363       
The post has been edited.
The goblins now is burly creatures, probably Saxons.
Jayhawk
Eminence Grise
posted 10-01-01 13:10 ET (US)     17 / 363       
Palain
I think I already had Owen explain it away as a vision given by Talisien.
Cyber Paladin
Pleb
posted 10-01-01 14:13 ET (US)     18 / 363       
Whoops...
I think I really need some good sleep to bring my mind back...

Doesn't really matter though, as the vision goes.

Jayhawk
Eminence Grise
posted 10-01-01 15:26 ET (US)     19 / 363       
Nope.

Glad to have you with us, though

Civis Romanus
Angel
posted 10-01-01 16:03 ET (US)     20 / 363       
Subject: Mysticism

What we call mysticism as practiced by ancients was nothing more than an explanation of odd and (in those days) unfathomable events interwoven with ritual ceremonies.

The shamans (wizards, warlocks, druids, etc.) among the ignorant ancients perpetuated the idea of mysticism. For well intentioned shamans, the folklore that developed from mysticism served the purpose of illustrating and conveying a culture's idea of morality or ethics. The more ambitious among the shamans were fully capable in their day (as are some in this day and age) of manipulating reality and commoners' minds to serve their personal ambitions, including their thirst for social status or political power.

THE MIST OF TIME is not intended to be hardcore fantasy. It is intended to be told in the context of its time (500 AD)when ignorance was rampant (no Romans) and strange events were couched in mystical terms.

For example, the story relates how the Cauldron was spirited away by the Mist... or so it seemed to the Celts. Is it not possible that Talisien waited until the right moment and signaled henchmen to steal the artifact under cover of night and fog when the last torch died, then claim it to be the work of the Mist? The result would be the same in the eyes of the Celts and would be told by witnesses the way the Celts saw the event that day.

And goblins? Couldn't they simply be a strange people with different facial features called goblins by others for lack of any other classification? Wouldn't Mongols seem to be goblins to a people who had never seen them before and had the concept of goblins embedded in their folklore? Not that they were Mongols who Aurelius discovered... Just a strange people he had never seen before that he called goblins knowing no other name to apply.

So as we develop this story, may I suggest we follow the rule of "pragmatic" mysticism as opposed to mimicing pure fantasy. In other words, let each event that seems mystical to our story characters be constructed in such a way that in this day and age a concrete, factual, non-mystical explanation could serve as a viable alternate description of the event.

If we are in agreement, I will post this convention on mysticism and fantasy to the Story Elements section above.

[This message has been edited by Civis Romanus (edited 10-01-2001 @ 04:45 PM).]

Cian McGuire
Member
posted 10-01-01 16:28 ET (US)     21 / 363       
Defintely, it is a nice general overview, and roughly what I imagined any ways.

In vino veritas
Windplume
Pleb
posted 10-01-01 16:31 ET (US)     22 / 363       
Civis, can you update the story header with the info I gave in the detail thread please?

Also, when do you want me to make an entrance, and how? I'm open to suggestions.

Civis Romanus
Angel
posted 10-01-01 16:43 ET (US)     23 / 363       
Will do, Windplume; but please be patient. I'm fitting these activities in between and around my "day job" for all of the obvious reasons.
Windplume
Pleb
posted 10-01-01 19:43 ET (US)     24 / 363       
Not a problem.


Everyone else: I need suggestions, see my earlier post.

Civis Romanus
Angel
posted 10-01-01 21:23 ET (US)     25 / 363       
Cian: In reference to my post in the other thread about your pictures, I did not know you were a veteran of these forums. Your profile gave an April 2001 membership date and you had about 36 posts in C3H at that time. I thought you were a newcomer and so I was trying to give a newcomer some information about the Angels and this site, at least in so far as I understand the formal and informal rules. I'm sorry the post caused you to take umbrage. I was trying to be helpful not hurtful.

Looking forward to your first contribution to the story.

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